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Can our ranking characters write and publish rosters?

Started by Jane, September 16, 2009, 03:18:28 PM

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Jane

(Or do I mean 'may'?)

In ::mumbles mumbles:: other clubs I've written with the ranking characters have issued monthly / sevenday assignments, for instance Wingleaders and Weyrleaders dictating the times for drills, who's on watch duty, who's doing support duty for Weyr errands etc.

Are we allowed to do these at Triad?  The 'issue' I can see is that it might be considered writing for other characters in that it obliges somebody else's character to be doing drills on morning X and watch duty on evening Y, etc.  Though the Weyrling Guide and the Dolphin Hall Daily Schedule already do this, in a way.

I'm thinking particularly of K'hetah, Leisenn, and Zharesti.

Eimi

QuoteThe 'issue' I can see is that it might be considered writing for other characters in that it obliges somebody else's character to be doing drills on morning X and watch duty on evening Y, etc.

You're exactly right.  That is the reason why we have never asked our rankers to write up schedules for wingriders in the Weyrs.  The reason there are schedules for Weyrlings and apprentices is not to dictate what individuals must do, but what is expected of a group as a whole.  People want to know what kind of classes their apprentices would be in, what kind of schedule their weyrling is expected to keep.  It gives them story line ideas that they can play with as a group.  Staff members, crafters and riders have a wide variety of individual schedules that may or may not be like others with their same profession, so we don't want to tell them when they must do things other than fly Thread.  Flying Thread is another activity where everyone must all be on the same schedule.

I can understand why some PBeM have schedules like that, and if a member wants to have a schedule, they can feel free to either ask their Wingleader/Weyrleader to help them or make their own and run it by them, but we would rather keep that as an individual choice.

Jane

The thing is, I *have* two wingleaders, and I want to know when they're doing drills and when they're free. LOL!

Is it okay if I make a schedule and keep it a secret?

Eimi

You can keep a schedule for your own personas of course.  But please don't hold anyone else to that schedule unless they ask to be included on it.  

Of course, if you want to make a special event, such as a special night drill, you can submit that to your L1 as a location SL.  We have done those in the past.

Amanda N

Well what about wing schedules? You know, basic "Drills in the morning, lunch, drills/new skills classes in the afternoon, until 5pm" something like that?  Then we'd know when the wings would be 'working' for the dragonriders' work days and comments about when drills are, etc, can be more consistent.  Can we ask the Wingleaders to make up schedules for the wings like that?  It would be nice to have something like that.

Paula

It has been done in the past, at least I remember writing Wing-assignments for U'das. But it fell out of use because, well, lack of use.
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Amanda N

I'd use it!  And that way I can reference time better!

Jane

We could have a general schedule, if not something as specific as daily rosters.  There are a couple of obvious places to locate them, if we did:

    http://www.triadweyrs.org/location.php?place=RBW -- Articles - Life in the Weyrs (which has nothing in it) could have the Weyr schedule or the three Wing Ones.

    http://www.triadweyrs.org/faq.php?fq_id=726 -- Could have an additional heading Weyrlife: Dragonriders and within it an article for each Weyr on their schedules - or one for each Wing to encourage the development of a Wing identity.[/list]

    We so seldom see dragonriders working in posts - it's sometimes more 'Day of Our Lives' than 'ER' - and this may be because there's no information about their work and schedules to hang the work posts on.

    As an example, DCW's location information mentions that:

    "In tropical Dolphin Cove, residents learn the advantages to some tasks being handled nocturnally."

    and:

    "The tropical nature of Dolphin Cove means that most cooking is done to avoid the extreme heat of the daytime, and the large chilled room at the rear of the kitchens and its refrigeration equipment are essential to keeping food cooked in advance during the cool of the night from spoiling."

    so it seems lots of people are working quirky hours, presumably with rests during the day.

    It would be great if we had a schedule that showed dragonriders observing a siesta or similar.  And not just for dragonriders.  That daily schedule for the dolphineer apprentices is really helpful because it gives the whole Hall a structure for the day and it's not too restrictive because if you need your character elsewhere you just have to provide a reason.

    Though Triad doesn't want daily rosters, along with a broader schedule they could have something like this (from a previous club, obviously needing amendment to suit) as posting hints:

    <>~ Support duties at the Hall, Hold, or Weyr take as much of the day as
    there is work for the rider.

    <>~ Sweep duty is in the morning only and the area to be covered will be
    advised by the senior member of the Trio on the day.

    <>~ Watch duty runs in three shifts; breakfast to mid-afternoon,
    mid-afternoon to midnight, midnight to breakfast. Riders rostered on
    watch duty are excused all other duties for that day except normal
    dragoncare responsibilities. Riders with wing rank will not be rostered
    on watch duty.

    <>~ Drills are in the mornings from immediately after breakfast to
    midday. After the midday meal all riders meet in the Wing common room
    and are either taken out for more drill or released to care for their
    dragons and their equipment. Only evenings are reliably free. (OOC: Please
    remember this when posting!)

    <>~ There is little or no free time on Threadfall days. After Threadfall
    dragons have to be washed and oiled and riders have to wash and repair
    their gear for the next day's drills.


    ~ ~ ~

    So, I have another question now.  Would dragonriders really do drills every day (other than restdays and Threadfall days)?  Suddenly it doesn't make any sense to me.  Pilots during the war(s) - on whom dragonriders are based - went out when they needed to, and then rested between times.  In Triad the time between Threadfalls is admittedly very long, but still, drills every day don't make that much sense.

    ~ ~ ~

    Lots of rambling ideas there.   :geek:

    Paula

    The assignments I did were pretty general, more like this: http://www.triadweyrs.org/faq.php?fq_id=568

    Sort of like:
     8-9 breakfast
    9-11 duties etc

    However, it was pretty frustrating when you were only one doing it and some of the posts indicated that the writers had not read it.... (like posts set on weyr when the wing was having sweep-duties...)
    "The truth is out there but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett

    Gabriel Lorca: "I still don't give a damn.  .

    Chloe: A list of everyone you've slept with in the past eight weeks.
    Lucifer: Right. You'll need a much bigger notepad.

    Maze to Lucifer: I'm worried that humans are rubbing of

    Amanda N

    I like Jane's idea.  If we had the basic schedules, ones for day and night, watch schedules, people could play along with them.  Wing schedules especially.  

    I'd play along with you Paula!  hey, we could have J'ren and U'das discuss changes in the schedule or something?

    Devin

    I'd agree that drills every day is a bit much. Personally, I'd do 2 on, 1 off. 2 days of drills for the wing, one day of sweeprides/courier/transport duty.

    (Not that I want to make schedules, because that would be work. I don't want more work. LOL)

    Paula

    Quote from: "Amanda N"I like Jane's idea.  If we had the basic schedules, ones for day and night, watch schedules, people could play along with them.  Wing schedules especially.  

    I'd play along with you Paula!  hey, we could have J'ren and U'das discuss changes in the schedule or something?

    Good idea for a post, Amanda.

    Some duties could rotate, like Torrent wind doing sweeps in this week and the Rapids in next week...
    "The truth is out there but the lies are inside your head." Terry Pratchett

    Gabriel Lorca: "I still don't give a damn.  .

    Chloe: A list of everyone you've slept with in the past eight weeks.
    Lucifer: Right. You'll need a much bigger notepad.

    Maze to Lucifer: I'm worried that humans are rubbing of

    Jane

    Quote from: "Paula"Some duties could rotate, like Torrent wind doing sweeps in this week and the Rapids in next week...

    More things that aren't relevant ... At a previous club the Weyrleader used to issue a Wing Duty roster like this:

    > >< <> >< <>  Weyr Duty Roster for m7  <> >< <> ><


    > >< <> Support Duty

    Riders rostered on this duty are to report to the steward, Holder, or
    cot holder (Holds); Hallsecond or Hallmaster (Halls); or Headman (Weyr).
    Support duty is not performed on the days when Thread falls.

    <> Snow Wing: None.

    <> Sleet Wing: 1st and 2nd days of the sevenday.

    <> Hail Wing: 3rd and 4th days of the sevenday.

    <> Rain Wing: 5th and 6th days of the sevenday.



    > >< <> Sweeps

    Riders rostered on this duty will be given their sweep area by their
    wingleader or one of the wingseconds.  On days when Thread will fall
    sweeps are done by all Wings.

    <> Snow Wing: None.

    <> Sleet Wing: 3rd and 5th days of the sevenday.

    <> Hail Wing: 2nd and 6th days of the sevenday.

    <> Rain Wing: 1st and 4th days of the sevenday.



    > >< <> Watch Duty

    Duty time for riders rostered on this duty will be specified on the
    individual wing assignment lists.  Watch duty is performed by weyrlings
    and those not in fighting wings on the days when Thread falls.

    <> Snow Wing:
       Second sevenday in the month.
       (With retired and injured riders.)

    <> Sleet Wing:
       First sevenday in the month.

    <> Hail Wing:
       Last sevenday in the month.

    <> Rain Wing:
       Third sevenday in the month.

    <> Senior Weyrlings and Riders not in Fighting Wings:
       Days on which Thread falls.


    Schedules, rosters and assignments.  Love 'em!  :geek: