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#21
Sharing, Fun, & Silliness / I'm back
Last post by emma - October 13, 2026, 09:54:00 AMYes, you guessed it, I'm back and ready to write.
For those who remember me, hello again!
For those who don't I'm Emma, long time Pern fan based in the North West of England.
Ask me anything!
For those who remember me, hello again!
For those who don't I'm Emma, long time Pern fan based in the North West of England.
Ask me anything!
#22
Member Inquiries / Watchwhers: retconing Todds Re...
Last post by Draconafin - October 12, 2026, 09:51:47 PMWatch whers:
I am working between the DLG, what I remember of DF and DK as refs, but mostly using logic with Triad's established dragonrider cannon and how it weathered the long 9th interval.
https://www.triadweyrs.org/wiki/Wher
retconing Todds Retcons
- I would like to try and get the use of sk names to be accepted in Triad Cannon
now, Todd's reasoning was it was because wher named themselves after their handlers in like the 6th pass. We all know whers were basically not needed by the end of the 9th pass with firelizards becoming preferred in mining operations (DLG p.137) I assume because firelizards were becoming very easy to attain within the 9th pass and the fact that the DLG outlined the progress into a world without thread. Consequently the general existing Cannon consenses is that wher were no longer needed at the end of the 9th pass.
My reason for naming with sk would be a throw to dragons ending in th. So as a way to honour whers as their own entity. A wher name itself becoming like a dragonriders elevated name, and thus why they were named after their handlers. Or the locations they served. I can see the later becoming less common as Pern attempted to phase whers out throughout the 9th pass. However all reading I have done states that whers breed true. So they would have still survived in significantly smaller numbers with less and less places to practice.
Also Triad wher info mentions they are not pets; so moving away from a firelizard style of naming them whatever could re-inforce ths
- wherhold, wher stakehold. Both of which I know are not possible with in established Triad. But a centralized point where wher knowledge could be discovered and or kept alive. Much like the AHH Healer Hall. But something small, maybe run by one or two handlers, their whers would have to be a mated pair or sibbling pair to avoid fights. To fit within established Triad Cannon I can see such a local being set up within a Beast craft hold. On the outskirts so not to frighten the other Beasts.
Whers in general are basically extinct at the start of the 9th pass. Only thing aivas even mentions is their potential in terms of telepathy. The re-education of pern would certainly sink no resources on something that was considered unhelpful. Riders got a pass because of turns of service. Whers were just there because they didn't die out
- Flight. Nope, don't want it, don't need it. Given their size and build being similar to Earth's Shetland ponies, yes I can see them being able to be ridden as herd beasts over short distances. But I do not see them being able to fly; even with the science. Triad also subscribes to the DLG where whers have no mention of being able to go /between/
- /Between/ _if_ this was made plausible I would say it would have to have its own rules. A wher would need to clear the ground in able to do it safely. Such as in a gaited run where all feet clear the ground in a suspension stride. Also as wher visualisation is different to a humans and a dragons having natural night/lowlight vision I dare say a wher would have to personally see a location before jumping. Thus I can theorize that /between/ for a wher would be more like skipping a stone and be a series of smaller jumps along a set path. Rather than the instantaneous leap from place to place. Unless a dragon was to carry them. The only reason I would like to see /between/ become a thing for whers is for easy of movement around Triad. Mostly so if a storyline was to happen that one could get a wher into they wouldn't have to be already there; ie planned to be in the location in question for several months beforehand.
- Mating flights. Would be matting runs. Much like dragons are aware of each other rising some weeks in advance I dare say whers would be the same and would congregate for such events. It would also be one of the few times they would be allowed to wander without their handler as a way of continuing the breed. However if the wher comes back to lay its clutch is a different problem
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Lastly this note is mostly for me
the DLG mentions (p. 155) That Beastherders had nothing to do with whers and any wher or flit healing would be done by a dragon healer.
The dlg implies that the Weyrs were basically disbanded at the end of the 9th pass
So the logic... imo would be that any unImpressed dragonhealers would prolly be taken into the beastcraft because of working knowledge of pernese beasts over the original terran ones. Not to mention it would make former dragon healers more accessible for all the new flit owners
If I had to guess the basics of beast healing and dragonhealing would be the same. Much like healers starting out as gps
Having said that though I would guess that a dragon healer journeyman or woman could bond a wher instead of dragon if the opportunity came up while they were travelling to halls and holds for hands on with beasts. Dragons aren't always going to be available for practice during the interval. Meaning that dragonhealers/beasthealers would have to travel for practice opportunities
There would have been lesser need for dragonhealers during the interval so dragon/beast healers might have had more cross over during that time. Especially for hands on experience. Espeically with the decreases in dragon (and wher) populations
#23
Member Inquiries / Re: Adapting an Alt Pern Story...
Last post by Devin - October 07, 2026, 09:01:43 PMWe haven't ever had guest writers at Triad. Everyone has to sign up and go through the mentor process to write posts here.
Borrowing a character with permission to use as part of backstory is fine. Writing a flashback from your character's POV is fine too.
For your questions 1 & 2 - it definitely happens! We even had a post fairly recently that deals with that same situation. Leaf on the Wind story link
3. belt knives, maybe?
4. Yes. Dragonless riders are triaged for any physical injuries and sometimes given a sedative for the shock. They have the choice to take a mercy draught.
4.2. A dragon being eaten by Thread as their rider is falling could very well go /between/ and never come out due to the pain and panic. (see Leaf on the Wind again)
Borrowing a character with permission to use as part of backstory is fine. Writing a flashback from your character's POV is fine too.
For your questions 1 & 2 - it definitely happens! We even had a post fairly recently that deals with that same situation. Leaf on the Wind story link
3. belt knives, maybe?
4. Yes. Dragonless riders are triaged for any physical injuries and sometimes given a sedative for the shock. They have the choice to take a mercy draught.
4.2. A dragon being eaten by Thread as their rider is falling could very well go /between/ and never come out due to the pain and panic. (see Leaf on the Wind again)
#24
Member Inquiries / Adapting an Alt Pern Story; Gu...
Last post by Draconafin - October 06, 2026, 06:58:27 PMSorry;
I sent this by email from the site until I realised that Aaron; said FORUM
Dear Council;
After Hesiba's question put my bluerider on the spot I have done some digging (some 20 yrs into the past) and found an event I would like the chance to flashback to/adapt to Triad Canon. Consequently, I have questions.
1. What; if any is the procedure for inviting a Guest writer in for a one shot post. I assume it would be up to us to run it via email etc, but I mean in posting it to the list. Would the character have to just be an ONPC of the site member posting it, or can we give credit to another writer. If the late is possible my guess would be in the notes section. Ie Notes: Guest Writer : fishy. As well as having to sign off; with a current username and site (assuming they don't wish to disclose their email as joining Triad is not on their personal goals list). Ie Fishy (fishy@vaioaweyr.com)
- This is based on if they want the chance to revisit this scene; they have given me permission to use their characters regardless. That said I would still like to be able to credit them. Either in notes or signatures or both. Because respect.
¬ * ¬
Along with this there are a few things of the original scene that need a Triad Canon check.
But before we get to that would need a cannon check.
The original scenario that would need adapting is thus:
- Wekith gets hit in the back of the head. Concern for his rider stops him instantly /between/ing. Thread eats him alive.
- P'yer falls from his seat on Wekiths neck. Is caught by wingmate (Az'uka). Who returns him to the bowl assuming the dragon is behind them as the keening doesn't start until they land
- Stirred by the keening P'yer finishes himself with a knife across his throat. I would imagine that the healers would have draft on standby. If not as standard practice then on hearing of the strike. (Also slitting ones own throat seems like a bit excessive drama. Especially in the original version of this P'yer was unscored himself. I could see an adaption being that he was also scored and bled out instead)
- Several people also jump from weyrledges in this storyline, but I would not be going that far. I have other plans to mess Ty'dis up – as discussed in his profile.
¬ * ¬
Consequently; the rest of the questions:
1. How common is it for riders to fall during a Fall? Ie for straps to break or be shredded by Thread?
2. How likely are they to be caught by another rider/wingmate/cover rider?
3. Would riders still carry belt knives into a Fall (i mean don't bring a knife to a gun fight).
4. I assume someone that lost a dragon in a Fall would be offered a mercy draft, rather than be given the chance to off themselves ?
4.2 I mean I assume it's far more likely that a heavily scored dragon/between/ed back to the bowl. Was caught to be treated but /between/ed before they could. But the original drama was the fall being out of timing with the dragon getting struck. Which is why the rider was caught/'rescued' without any apparent knowledge that their dragon had been lost
- Dracie
I sent this by email from the site until I realised that Aaron; said FORUM
Dear Council;
After Hesiba's question put my bluerider on the spot I have done some digging (some 20 yrs into the past) and found an event I would like the chance to flashback to/adapt to Triad Canon. Consequently, I have questions.
1. What; if any is the procedure for inviting a Guest writer in for a one shot post. I assume it would be up to us to run it via email etc, but I mean in posting it to the list. Would the character have to just be an ONPC of the site member posting it, or can we give credit to another writer. If the late is possible my guess would be in the notes section. Ie Notes: Guest Writer : fishy. As well as having to sign off; with a current username and site (assuming they don't wish to disclose their email as joining Triad is not on their personal goals list). Ie Fishy (fishy@vaioaweyr.com)
- This is based on if they want the chance to revisit this scene; they have given me permission to use their characters regardless. That said I would still like to be able to credit them. Either in notes or signatures or both. Because respect.
¬ * ¬
Along with this there are a few things of the original scene that need a Triad Canon check.
But before we get to that would need a cannon check.
The original scenario that would need adapting is thus:
- Wekith gets hit in the back of the head. Concern for his rider stops him instantly /between/ing. Thread eats him alive.
- P'yer falls from his seat on Wekiths neck. Is caught by wingmate (Az'uka). Who returns him to the bowl assuming the dragon is behind them as the keening doesn't start until they land
- Stirred by the keening P'yer finishes himself with a knife across his throat. I would imagine that the healers would have draft on standby. If not as standard practice then on hearing of the strike. (Also slitting ones own throat seems like a bit excessive drama. Especially in the original version of this P'yer was unscored himself. I could see an adaption being that he was also scored and bled out instead)
- Several people also jump from weyrledges in this storyline, but I would not be going that far. I have other plans to mess Ty'dis up – as discussed in his profile.
¬ * ¬
Consequently; the rest of the questions:
1. How common is it for riders to fall during a Fall? Ie for straps to break or be shredded by Thread?
2. How likely are they to be caught by another rider/wingmate/cover rider?
3. Would riders still carry belt knives into a Fall (i mean don't bring a knife to a gun fight).
4. I assume someone that lost a dragon in a Fall would be offered a mercy draft, rather than be given the chance to off themselves ?
4.2 I mean I assume it's far more likely that a heavily scored dragon/between/ed back to the bowl. Was caught to be treated but /between/ed before they could. But the original drama was the fall being out of timing with the dragon getting struck. Which is why the rider was caught/'rescued' without any apparent knowledge that their dragon had been lost
- Dracie
#25
Member Inquiries / Re: Green Dragons
Last post by Devin - August 27, 2026, 01:16:26 PMGreens do stop rising when they/their riders get older, but there's no fixed age. It generally depends on dragon and rider health.
#26
Member Inquiries / Green Dragons
Last post by Suspreena - August 25, 2026, 09:27:09 PMAs greens age, do they start to rise less often, and then stop? Or do they just keep going until ...
#27
Introductions / Re: Take 3.0 Maniacal Laughter...
Last post by Draconafin - August 16, 2026, 02:28:33 AMQuote from: Devin on August 15, 2026, 09:10:42 PMQuote from: Suspreena on August 14, 2026, 06:13:51 PMI haven't rp'd since 88, 1988. I would have love to import my character, but timiing it that far ...
You can reinvent your character. "What if they were born in this time instead?" It can be a very interesting exercise to see what changes and what stays the same. I've played a few alternate versions of N'vanik before, and even his original concept was "what if Sawyer from Lost was a dragonrider."
I second this
I have RPed Az and Tay across several time connected Werys and it has been a great joy to come back to Az's roots, for one and the chance to re-invent Tay has been equally cathartic, using some of my own life experience to colour it and dust off his impossible injuries.
#28
Introductions / Re: Take 3.0 Maniacal Laughter...
Last post by Devin - August 15, 2026, 09:10:42 PMQuote from: Suspreena on August 14, 2026, 06:13:51 PMI haven't rp'd since 88, 1988. I would have love to import my character, but timiing it that far ...
You can reinvent your character. "What if they were born in this time instead?" It can be a very interesting exercise to see what changes and what stays the same. I've played a few alternate versions of N'vanik before, and even his original concept was "what if Sawyer from Lost was a dragonrider."
#29
Introductions / Re: Take 3.0 Maniacal Laughter...
Last post by Suspreena - August 15, 2026, 09:08:32 PMNo way to involve a wing of Thread searing flitters, nor import songs written by Weyrsinger G'tan.
#30
Introductions / Re: Heyla
Last post by Suspreena - August 15, 2026, 09:06:54 PMI still have the copies of In the Shadows and Dragonsfall plus 2 of the fanzines. My character was N'ue (New) and she rode green Math. I had an interesting idea for an odd timing event that could have been used to import the pair, but ... no wing of Thread fighting flitters yet. Just think what a a blue sized green with 20+ years of fighting Thread could have done.
Ah well, Sweet dreams are made of these.
Ah well, Sweet dreams are made of these.