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Title: *dances* A/c at last!
Post by: Kaysea on March 13, 2007, 05:43:29 PM
In about three hours we will have Air Conditioning!

*does happy dance*

We're into autumn but the weather is still in the 30+C (91F+) so we're still baking on a low heat.  But finally the air-con arrived this morning and the guy to instal it is arriving in a little over an hour.

With hubby on restricted fluids of less than a litre (2.133 pints) a day, it isn't much fun for him on a warm day, never mind a hot one.  

Just wanted to share - I'm so excited - can you tell???
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Post by: Vix on March 13, 2007, 06:38:43 PM
I'm excited for you!
Though I've felt as if I've had air conditioning in my apartment all winter.
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Post by: Kaysea on March 13, 2007, 06:46:30 PM
This one ios one of those reverse cycle ones, not sure what you guys would call them, they cool in summer and heat in winter.  Though the gas fire heats the house pretty well when we need it to in winter, and our winters are no way near as severe as you guys suffer through.  (Thank God!)
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Post by: Bree on March 13, 2007, 07:03:06 PM
Autumn isn't a word for us?? :D Who has been pulling your leg, lady?

It's still about 70 out... was 80 earlier today. I'm told it'll be down in the 30's later this week... which means from 27 to 0 for those metric types. :D
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Post by: Dana on March 13, 2007, 07:05:21 PM
Quote from: "Bree"Autumn isn't a word for us?? :D Who has been pulling your leg, lady?

Yeah...everyone I know uses the word autumn  :D
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Post by: Kaysea on March 13, 2007, 07:09:46 PM
Quote from: "Bree"Autumn isn't a word for us?? :D Who has been pulling your leg, lady?


You guys always say Fall....
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Post by: Bree on March 13, 2007, 07:21:12 PM
Quote from: "Kaysea"You guys always say Fall....

No, I always type fall... because it's shorter. :D I don't always SAY it though.
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Post by: Vix on March 13, 2007, 07:21:15 PM
Quote from: "Kaysea"
Quote from: "Bree"Autumn isn't a word for us?? :D Who has been pulling your leg, lady?


You guys always say Fall....

Since when?
I'll admit that this year I used the word "fall" more often but that's b/c I had a child named Autumn in the class and didn't want to confuse the children too badly.
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Post by: Kaysea on March 13, 2007, 07:30:59 PM
Quote from: "vix"Since when?
I'll admit that this year I used the word "fall" more often but that's b/c I had a child named Autumn in the class and didn't want to confuse the children too badly.

So you're being diplomatic...

Quote from: "Bree"No, I always type fall... because it's shorter. big grin I don't always SAY it though.

And you're just lazy...LOL

I haven't heard anyone use it....
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Post by: Mikel on March 13, 2007, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: "Kaysea"
Quote from: "vix"Since when?
I'll admit that this year I used the word "fall" more often but that's b/c I had a child named Autumn in the class and didn't want to confuse the children too badly.

So you're being diplomatic...

Quote from: "Bree"No, I always type fall... because it's shorter. big grin I don't always SAY it though.

And you're just lazy...LOL

I haven't heard anyone use it....

How many of us have you heard?
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Post by: Rochelle on March 13, 2007, 07:37:53 PM
It depends on the part of the country. I've lived all over the USA, and different areas use different terminology. I tend to use the one that fits where I am living at the moment. (It was the surprise of my life when I took a linguistics class and discovered some of the slang from my previous state of residence was being studied as unique examples. Such as ticked and schlepp.)
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Post by: Jane on March 13, 2007, 07:41:31 PM
Quote from: "Dana"
Quote from: "Bree"Autumn isn't a word for us?? :D Who has been pulling your leg, lady?

Yeah...everyone I know uses the word autumn  :D

Great.  Race over to the 'When Are the Crayon Awards?' FAQ and amend this, then. :)

October 1st - Start Fall Nominations
October 15th - Start Fall Voting
November 1st - Announce Fall Winners


Not that that'll help since your seasons are all back-to-front anyway.
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Post by: Bree on March 13, 2007, 07:56:53 PM
:p See aforementioned "I'm lazy" post. :D

Though I am totally confused as to why y'all are trying to convince us which words we DON'T use. ;)
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Post by: Jane on March 13, 2007, 08:05:09 PM
Quote from: "Bree"Though I am totally confused as to why y'all are trying to convince us which words we DON'T use. ;)
We are inundated with American tv and I've spent plenty of hours ... er ... researching.  I've never yet heard 'autumn' used on any US program.
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Post by: Bree on March 13, 2007, 08:10:03 PM
But... that doesn't answer my question. Which was... why do y'all care? *g* I just thought it was awful funny that Kaysea translated it for us! I've never had someone translate 'autumn' for me before, so I never realized that it was supposedly not a US term.
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Post by: Jane on March 13, 2007, 08:27:47 PM
Quote from: "Bree"But... that doesn't answer my question. Which was... why do y'all care? *g*

Well I don't care what you use, I'm just gob-smacked.  I read a lot of American stuff, too.  Are you sure using autumn isn't a *new* thing for you?

On the positive side - you do apparently really use "y'all", so that's one myth that doesn't need busting.
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Post by: PastMember on March 13, 2007, 08:28:09 PM
I miss living somewhere where I could be happy with swamp cooling. *cries*
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Post by: Kaysea on March 13, 2007, 08:30:38 PM
*falls off chair laughing*

I was showing off, I speak bilingual....and that was the proof!

I guess I'm just so used to translating out temp and weights I guess the seasons just got added....

;)
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Post by: Kaysea on March 13, 2007, 08:56:28 PM
anyway, all of that is moot, since I now have Air Con and my house is nice and cooooool!!

*needs an icicle wearing emoticon*
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Post by: Mikel on March 13, 2007, 09:00:10 PM
The Crazy Aussie has always been cool!
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Post by: Bree on March 13, 2007, 09:04:15 PM
Actually, Jane, it's sort of the other way around. Autumn is an old word for us, and whether or not you use it probably depends a lot on where you live. (Just like y'all... which my parents would probably have heart attacks if they heard me saying!)

A good read on the subject: http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/ah/2001/7/2001_7_22c.shtml

If you really wanna get a good argument going, let's discuss Pop vs Soda vs Coke. :D All of which are NICE AND COOL in the theme of Kaysea's new AC!
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Post by: Kaysea on March 13, 2007, 09:08:05 PM
Quote from: "Mikel"The Crazy Aussie has always been cool!

Yeah? Tell that to my kids! LOL
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Post by: Kaysea on March 13, 2007, 09:09:44 PM
Quote from: "Bree"If you really wanna get a good argument going, let's discuss Pop vs Soda vs Coke. :D

Or the old Pepsi Vs Coke debate...

*Is a Coke girl from wayback*
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Post by: Bree on March 13, 2007, 09:13:56 PM
No, no. Down around where I live now, there are a great many people who refer to every carbonated beverage as coke, whether it's coke, pepsi, sprite... everything!

And those pesky Minnesotans and mid-westerners call it pop!
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Post by: Kaysea on March 13, 2007, 09:18:54 PM
Quote from: "Bree"And those pesky Minnesotans and mid-westerners call it pop!

The poms call it pop as well, and all we ever see on the TV is yanks calling it soda or soda pop....

TV has a lot to answer for...
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Post by: Jane on March 13, 2007, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: "Bree"A good read on the subject: http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/ah/2001/7/2001_7_22c.shtml
"After the Revolution, British usage began shifting to the more Latinate term, influenced perhaps by Continental usage or upper-class striving for refinement. Americans, much less affected by such influences, stuck with their Yankee ancestors' simple and direct term."

No bias or stereotyping there, huh?

But here's the Wiki version, which I find more palatable:

"During the 17th century, English immigration to the colonies in North America was at its peak and the new settlers took their language with them. While the term fall gradually obsolesced in Britain, it became the preferred term in North America, at least in conversation."

New Zealand has some words that have died out in the UK but have stayed in common use here.
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Post by: Eimi on March 13, 2007, 10:51:32 PM
QuoteThe poms call it pop as well, and all we ever see on the TV is yanks calling it soda or soda pop....


*psst* "Yankees" are people from the north eastern part of America.  I am not now, never have been, nor ever will be a Yank ;)  I'm a Washingtonian.
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Post by: Jane on March 13, 2007, 11:13:02 PM
Quote from: "Eimi"*psst* "Yankees" are people from the north eastern part of America.  I am not now, never have been, nor ever will be a Yank ;)  I'm a Washingtonian.
Kiwis call all Americans 'Yanks'.  We don't have sub-divisions for you ... all.
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Post by: Eimi on March 13, 2007, 11:35:31 PM
QuoteKiwis call all Americans 'Yanks'. We don't have sub-divisions for you ... all.

Yeah, I know, I get it all the time.  Then I subject all my friends to an American history lesson and they never call me that again :naka:

After all, I'm from Mariner country.  We don't like them damn Yankees XD

(Baseball teams and serious rivals  :aufsmaul: )
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Post by: emma on March 14, 2007, 12:37:36 AM
Quote from: "Kaysea"
Quote from: "Bree"And those pesky Minnesotans and mid-westerners call it pop!

The poms call it pop as well, and all we ever see on the TV is yanks calling it soda or soda pop....

TV has a lot to answer for...

You're all Septics (Septic Tanks=Yanks - ain't cockney rhyming slang great)! This Pom does not whinge, we will win the Cricket world cup.  You down under may have the Ashes, but we'll fight back!

Oh and Coke comes ina red can/bottle and says Coca Cola on the side.  Anything else is pop/fizzy drink...
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Post by: Eimi on March 14, 2007, 02:01:49 AM
In the Pacific Northwest we call soda "pop" a lot.  But I picked up "soda" from my Japanese students back in uni.
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Post by: Patrick on March 14, 2007, 03:17:24 AM
Quote from: "Eimi"We don't like them darn Yankees XD

(Baseball teams and serious rivals  :aufsmaul: )

Well we don't like you much either. :P  And I haven't heard ANYONE call it "pop"  its always soda.  Thats it, unless you use the brand name.
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Post by: Eimi on March 14, 2007, 03:46:25 AM
QuoteWell we don't like you much either ;)

We had this great Mariners commercial a few years ago with Jeff Nelson and Jay Buener.  They both were on the Yankees team together and then they moved to the Mariners, but Jay came a few years before Jeff.  So in the commercial they went to couples counciling because first they were Yankee teammates, then they were rivlas, now they're supposed to be loving teammates again and they were just so confused about how they should feel about each other... It was so funny!
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Post by: Kaysea on March 14, 2007, 06:19:18 AM
*beginning to wish she had never started this thread about her air-con....*


 :blackeye:
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Post by: Bree on March 14, 2007, 06:35:22 AM
No, within this country, being called a yankee can be considered an insult, depending on where you live.

Not for me though. :D I'm a yankee born and bred! Me and Patrick will be over there being awesome yankees!
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Post by: Kaysea on March 14, 2007, 06:48:23 AM
And if it makes you guys feel any better, to all other states in Oz, we Melburnians are called Mexicans.... they think our driving sux and coz we're south of the border....   ;)
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Post by: Bree on March 14, 2007, 07:14:12 AM
Well, yank is short for yankee. :D

I don't think anyone thinks you're trying to insult them! I just find variations in language to be interesting. And I find people's assumptions about other countrys interesting too. Though I always get so depressed when people say, "But that's what it's like on TV!" Reminds me of when the Austrians asked me if America was really like the show "Married with Children"... *sob*
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Post by: Mikel on March 14, 2007, 07:15:58 AM
Quote from: "Eimi"After all, I'm from Mariner country.  We don't like them darn Yankees XD
(Baseball teams and serious rivals  :aufsmaul: )

I was raised a Met's fan and then moved to Boston for 13 years and became a Red Sox fan.

Two reasons to hate the Yankees.
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Post by: Mikel on March 14, 2007, 07:23:22 AM
Quote from: "Bree"No, no. Down around where I live now, there are a great many people who refer to every carbonated beverage as coke, whether it's coke, pepsi, sprite... everything!

And those pesky Minnesotans and mid-westerners call it pop!

A few years ago I was helping Heather with her Girl Scout troop.  One girl was carrying a bag with bottle of carbonated beverages in it.  When she complained about the weight and asked what was in it, I naturally said "Soda"

Blank look.

So, I moved my language forward a bit.  "Tonic"

Blank look

**ugh, where am I living now?**  "Pop?"

Nothing

**Oh!  Yeah, I'm in the south**  "Coke"

"Well why didn't you say so, Mr Michael?"


No wonder I have trouble in convesations with Emma and Kaysee, I am not even fluent in my own country.  Whenever people ask if I speak a second language, I tell them I don't even speak Southern
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Post by: PastMember on March 14, 2007, 07:42:29 AM
Quote from: "Bree"No, no. Down around where I live now, there are a great many people who refer to every carbonated beverage as coke, whether it's coke, pepsi, sprite... everything!

And those pesky Minnesotans and mid-westerners call it pop!

Everything's coke in the South.

"Hey, get me a coke!" "What kind?" "Diet" "Get me one too!" "What kind?" "Root beer if you have it, Dr. Pepper if you don't."

That sorta thing.

When I was in college, I knew a girl who'd moved from Oklahoma, and I remember one time I'd complained cause the waitress at a restaurant brought me the wrong kind of coke, and she was so confused. "How many kinds of Coke are there?" lol

I explained it to her, capital C Coke refers to the actual brand: Coca Cola. Lower case c coke is just a generic term for all things carbonated. Since you can't always tell what sense of the word a person means when they speak (though, sometimes you can) it's good to ask "What kind" in the South when someone asks for a coke.
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Post by: Patrick on March 14, 2007, 08:16:07 AM
Quote from: "Bree"Me and Patrick will be over there being awesome yankees!
Woot!  Yankees for Life!  (accept for the baseball team.  I guess its a prerequisite for living above Boston, you MUST like the Red Sox, even if you don't like baseball.)
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Post by: PastMember on March 14, 2007, 10:40:44 AM
Yay Red Sox!!! Though the Diamondbacks are WAY better!


Where I come from, we call it soda. That's it, just soda. Nothing special.


Where I live now, being called a Yankee is an insult. Thank goodness I'm a Westerner.
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Post by: Bree on March 14, 2007, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: "Patrick"Woot!  Yankees for Life!  (accept for the baseball team.  I guess its a prerequisite for living above Boston, you MUST like the Red Sox, even if you don't like baseball.)

Well, the first baseball team I ever noticed was after I moved to Minnesota, and got introduced to the Twins. ;) I suppose on the rare occasions I take notice of sports, I am a Minnesota girl. (Except for college hockey! Maine Black Bears! Woot! I have a JERSEY!)
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Post by: Vix on March 14, 2007, 12:59:09 PM
Being a northerner, I guess I could be considered a yankee but not a Yankee fan (and don't call AJ that -- like Mikel, he's strictly Mets). I really don't follow most sports, but tend toward those in Philadelphia or PennState (definitely a family thing -- I was raised by sports fanatics). However, I'm truly disappointed that Bucknell has not been invited to be part of March Madness.
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Post by: Rochelle on March 14, 2007, 02:23:54 PM
Hmm. I've lived too many places. Soda, pop, coke, and fizzy are all the same term to me -fortunately I don't drink any of it. :) I've been a Minnesotan, an Iowegian, a Missourian, a redneck, a skater, a yuppie, a Yankee (and Yank, when south of the Mason Dixon line -that woman was ticked/pissed/blazing/furious/teed off/madder than a hornet), Easterner, Northerner, Southerner, a Foreigner, and a few others I can't quite remember right now.

The result of all this moving and jargon change? I confuse the heck/bejeebers/bejeezus/daylights/life out of people with my "accent" -which is composed of a little bit of every place I've lived, a hefty dose of Minnesota speech classes (since most tv is done in Minnesota dialect, they consider any other style of speaking to be inferior and thus the subject of intensive speech therapy), and a slur I'm told comes more from the fact that I can't hear about five percent of the sounds in the English language. Ironically, ninety percent of my college classmates (and several teachers who used to live there) thought I was from England. I still haven't figured that one out yet...

I am also largely indifferent to sports teams/fandom, although I generally cheer for whatever area I am currently living in if someone forces me to a game -unless of course they are playing someone from where I used to live, in which case I cheer for both!
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Post by: PastMember on March 14, 2007, 02:56:22 PM
Quote from: "Bree"
Quote from: "Patrick"Woot!  Yankees for Life!  (accept for the baseball team.  I guess its a prerequisite for living above Boston, you MUST like the Red Sox, even if you don't like baseball.)

Well, the first baseball team I ever noticed was after I moved to Minnesota, and got introduced to the Twins. ;) I suppose on the rare occasions I take notice of sports, I am a Minnesota girl. (Except for college hockey! Maine Black Bears! Woot! I have a JERSEY!)


See? I KNEW Bree had good taste!!! Yay TWINS!!!
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Post by: Eimi on March 14, 2007, 03:21:19 PM
Rochelle Said:
Quotean Iowegian

An Iowegian, eh?  I always thought it would have been Iowan!

Quotesince most tv is done in Minnesota dialect, they consider any other style of speaking to be inferior and thus the subject of intensive speech therapy

I'm lucky I speak Standard American Broadcast English.  Everyone can understand me.  But I find I can't always understand everyone else in America.  I had a bit of trouble when I went down to Oklaholma to visit my ex's family.  They had a seriously thick accent and most the time it was fine, but a few times it was like being in a foreign country!

I feel really sorry for the non-American English teachers here in Japan.  They teach SAB English in schools, so sometimes they ask their teachers, even if they aren't from America, to speak with an American accent.  My friend is from Australia and she was complaining about recording a listening test and they had to do it over and over because she was saying "can't" with her native accent.
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Post by: Bree on March 14, 2007, 03:22:50 PM
I have NEVER gotten teased about my accent like I did when I was in Minnesota, Rochelle! They trained my Maine accent just about completely out of me by making so much fun of me. :p
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Post by: Eimi on March 14, 2007, 03:33:53 PM
When I was a little kid we had a family friend from Maine visiting.  When Anna called her mother "mum" and said to her "Why don't you call her MOM?  I thought you were an American!"  What can I say, I was a kid.
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Post by: Bree on March 14, 2007, 03:52:38 PM
I spell it mom, but I KNOW it sounds like mum when I say it. ;)
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Post by: Vix on March 14, 2007, 03:54:58 PM
My accent changes from time to time, depending on who else is talking. However, I've often been asked if I'm from New England, though I've only ever visited there once.
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Post by: Patrick on March 14, 2007, 04:07:48 PM
Quote from: "Eimi"When I was a little kid we had a family friend from Maine visiting.  When Anna called her mother "mum" and said to her "Why don't you call her MOM?  I thought you were an American!"  What can I say, I was a kid.

Quote from: "Bree"I spell it mom, but I KNOW it sounds like mum when I say it. ;)

I spell it and Say it Mum.  Its always been that way, even when I lived in Jersey.  I guess I just liked it.  And my dad will always be da.  It's just the way I am.
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Post by: PastMember on March 14, 2007, 04:17:51 PM
When I say "mom" it sounds like mawm... like lawn or yawn, only beginning and ending with m.
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Post by: Kaysea on March 14, 2007, 05:24:42 PM
Quote from: "Patrick"
Quote from: "Eimi"When I was a little kid we had a family friend from Maine visiting.  When Anna called her mother "mum" and said to her "Why don't you call her MOM?  I thought you were an American!"  What can I say, I was a kid.

Quote from: "Bree"I spell it mom, but I KNOW it sounds like mum when I say it. ;)

I spell it and Say it Mum.  Its always been that way, even when I lived in Jersey.  I guess I just liked it.  And my dad will always be da.  It's just the way I am.

Well I've always called my mum, 'Mum', but my kids called my dad, 'Dar' - I think the pronunciation would be the same as yours Patrick.  

It was dad's choice.  He didn't want to be called grandad, pop or any of a number of names for a grandfather, and apparently it was what he called his grandfather.
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Post by: Patrick on March 14, 2007, 05:27:46 PM
No I pronounce it "Dah" not "Dar".
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Post by: Bree on March 14, 2007, 05:38:37 PM
Here's the real test, Patrick: can you say 'drawing' without adding an 'r' to the middle of it?

I can't! To this day, in spite of years of effort, I still say "drawring" and "drawr" no matter how hard I try not to. ;) And I used to actually spell idea "idear"...

Crazy accents!
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Post by: Patrick on March 14, 2007, 05:44:51 PM
Quote from: "Bree"Here's the real test, Patrick: can you say 'drawing' without adding an 'r' to the middle of it?

I can't! To this day, in spite of years of effort, I still say "drawring" and "drawr" no matter how hard I try not to. ;) And I used to actually spell idea "idear"...

Crazy accents!

I can say "drawing" because I learned to talk in Jersey and with my mix of accents it comes out alright.  It's not as bad as my friend Kristin, she pronounces it "drawrling".  Its terrible!  It drives me Crazy!
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Post by: Kaysea on March 14, 2007, 06:04:46 PM
Quote from: "Patrick"No I pronounce it "Dah" not "Dar".

Same pronunciation... :)
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Post by: Eimi on March 14, 2007, 07:34:13 PM
Bree Said:
QuoteI can't! To this day, in spite of years of effort, I still say "drawring" and "drawr" no matter how hard I try not to.

Oh please please PLEASE tell me you can say Washington without an R!  That's right up there with the people who pronounce Oregon "ore-gone"...


Vix said:

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My accent changes from time to time, depending on who else is talking.  

Yeah, I do that too.  Everyone in my family on seperate occassions have talked about how I have a Japanese accent.  I've had one for the last 8 years.  Just on certain words.  And when I talk to a Japanese person on the phone they always knew because my pronunciation and syntax changed dramatically.  I am fluent in pigeon English now *blush*
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Post by: PastMember on March 15, 2007, 05:57:41 AM
Quote from: "Eimi"Oh please please PLEASE tell me you can say Washington without an R!  That's right up there with the people who pronounce Oregon "ore-gone"...


*raises hand guiltily* That's the one of the very few words where my Suthun' accent will pop out. And I lived in/near DC for several years, so I was teased to no end. Even now, if I'm not paying attention, I'll say it that way, so I've learned just to refer to it as DC. :D
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Post by: PastMember on March 15, 2007, 07:42:22 AM
Quote from: "Kaysea"
Quote from: "Patrick"No I pronounce it "Dah" not "Dar".

Same pronunciation... :)

How?  :skeptisch:
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Post by: Kaysea on March 15, 2007, 07:50:17 AM
Aussie is pronounced Ozzie (as in Ozzie and Harriett) not Os-sea....
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Post by: Bree on March 15, 2007, 08:07:39 AM
Quote from: "Kaysea"You guys pronounce Melbourne as Mel Bourne.... we pronounce it as Mel Bun...

There you go again with the generalizations... :D You can't ever say 'you guys pronounce' about Americans... because it's not ever true for all of us! ;) Most of my family calls it Melbaahn. :D

New Englanders have occasional problems with their r's. :D
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Post by: Mikel on March 15, 2007, 08:10:04 AM
Quote from: "Kaysea"
Quote from: "Amanda"
Quote from: "Kaysea"
Quote from: "Patrick"No I pronounce it "Dah" not "Dar".

Same pronunciation... :)

How?  :skeptisch:


Aussie is pronounced Ozzie (as in Ozzie and Harriett) not Os-sea....

I pronounce that Aww-Zee
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Post by: Mikel on March 15, 2007, 08:12:30 AM
Quote from: "Bree"
Quote from: "Kaysea"You guys pronounce Melbourne as Mel Bourne.... we pronounce it as Mel Bun...

There you go again with the generalizations... :D You can't ever say 'you guys pronounce' about Americans... because it's not ever true for all of us! ;) Most of my family calls it Melbaahn. :D

New Englanders have occasional problems with their r's. :D

I concur with the Lady Bree.

If you travel 300 miles in the US you change accents markedly.  Travel furher (say... Massachusetts to western Tennessee), it is almost a different dialect.
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Post by: PastMember on March 15, 2007, 08:33:43 AM
Quote from: "Bree"New Englanders have occasional problems with their r's. :D

You should hear Mikel talk! He says pita  "pee-ter"
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Post by: Mikel on March 15, 2007, 09:08:09 AM
Quote from: "Heather"
Quote from: "Bree"New Englanders have occasional problems with their r's. :D

You should hear Mikel talk! He says pita  "pee-ter"

I am originally from NY.  I use the R's that New Englanders do not.

Yep, I have the occassional IDEAR, lived for a while in North CAROLINER, and have been known the WARSH the dishes.
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Post by: Patrick on March 15, 2007, 04:20:06 PM
Quote from: "Bree"New Englanders have occasional problems with their r's. :D

That we do!
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Post by: Kaysea on March 15, 2007, 05:05:51 PM
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Post by: Patrick on March 15, 2007, 05:36:31 PM
Quote from: "Kaysea"Ok, ok....I generalize, but let's just say, every Yank I have ever met - and believe it or not, there's been a few, have not been able to pronounce Aussie, Melbourme, Brisbane.... etc etc.

I even taught Will how to speak aussie over AIM... *chuckles* now that was an experience....

Well maybe you're experience has been that way.  But I feel that I'm very good at picking up accents.  I've gotten compliments from my Mexican native Spanish teacher on my lack of accent before.  And I'm very good at impersonations so...
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Post by: Kaysea on March 15, 2007, 06:06:00 PM
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Quote from: "Kaysea"Ok, ok....I generalize, but let's just say, every Yank I have ever met - and believe it or not, there's been a few, have not been able to pronounce Aussie, Melbourme, Brisbane.... etc etc.

I even taught Will how to speak aussie over AIM... *chuckles* now that was an experience....

Well maybe you're experience has been that way.  But I feel that I'm very good at picking up accents.  I've gotten compliments from my Mexican native Spanish teacher on my lack of accent before.  And I'm very good at impersonations so...

I would have to hear you to judge your aussie accent. :)  

Just a hint though, the majority of us speak more like Paul Hogan - Crocodile Dundee;  than Steve Erwin - Crocodile Hunter.   ;)

And my accent slips from Aussie to Pom depending on who I'm with and/or what I'm saying.  But most people wouldn't pick me for a pom now.
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Post by: emma on March 16, 2007, 12:40:59 AM
Quote from: "Kaysea"
Quote from: "Patrick"
Quote from: "Kaysea"Ok, ok....I generalize, but let's just say, every Yank I have ever met - and believe it or not, there's been a few, have not been able to pronounce Aussie, Melbourme, Brisbane.... etc etc.

I even taught Will how to speak aussie over AIM... *chuckles* now that was an experience....

Well maybe you're experience has been that way.  But I feel that I'm very good at picking up accents.  I've gotten compliments from my Mexican native Spanish teacher on my lack of accent before.  And I'm very good at impersonations so...

I would have to hear you to judge your aussie accent. :)  

Just a hint though, the majority of us speak more like Paul Hogan - Crocodile Dundee;  than Steve Erwin - Crocodile Hunter.   ;)

And my accent slips from Aussie to Pom depending on who I'm with and/or what I'm saying.  But most people wouldn't pick me for a pom now.

*giggles* Ha! I'd probably do a fairly creditable Aussie impression - Way too much watching of and laughing at Neighbours (where it's still Christmas, or was yesterday!)
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Post by: Kaysea on March 16, 2007, 12:51:00 AM
Quote from: "emma"*giggles* Ha! I'd probably do a fairly creditable Aussie impression - Way too much watching of and laughing at Neighbours (where it's still Christmas, or was yesterday!)

Put it this way Emma, if you're cockney, you already almost have an aussie accent.
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Post by: Avery on March 16, 2007, 11:54:48 AM
I was born and raised in Florida my whole life, but since the person who taught me to talk came from Liverpool in England, people at my school (teachers, students, etc) occasionally ask me "are you a Brit?". It's amusing, even if I don't think I sound that English when directly compared to an English person.
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Post by: emma on March 16, 2007, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: "Kaysea"
Quote from: "emma"*giggles* Ha! I'd probably do a fairly creditable Aussie impression - Way too much watching of and laughing at Neighbours (where it's still Christmas, or was yesterday!)

Put it this way Emma, if you're cockney, you already almost have an aussie accent.

H**l no!  That'd make me a soft Southerner!!!

 :right:  Northern and proud of it!
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Post by: Patrick on March 16, 2007, 03:04:45 PM
Quote from: "Kaysea"Just a hint though, the majority of us speak more like Paul Hogan - Crocodile Dundee;  than Steve Erwin - Crocodile Hunter.   ;)

Now see if you wanted me to do a creditable accent, I'd have to spend time with an ACTUAL Aussie for a few days.  I can't just pick it up after one line.  I have to hear it enough that my tongue can wrap around it.
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Post by: Vix on March 16, 2007, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: "Patrick"
Quote from: "Kaysea"Just a hint though, the majority of us speak more like Paul Hogan - Crocodile Dundee;  than Steve Erwin - Crocodile Hunter.   ;)

Now see if you wanted me to do a creditable accent, I'd have to spend time with an ACTUAL Aussie for a few days.  I can't just pick it up after one line.  I have to hear it enough that my tongue can wrap around it.

Yes, but Kaysea doesn't sound like an Aussie. She sounds more like a Brit.
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Post by: Patrick on March 17, 2007, 01:18:14 PM
Quote from: "vix"
Quote from: "Patrick"
Quote from: "Kaysea"Just a hint though, the majority of us speak more like Paul Hogan - Crocodile Dundee;  than Steve Erwin - Crocodile Hunter.   ;)

Now see if you wanted me to do a creditable accent, I'd have to spend time with an ACTUAL Aussie for a few days.  I can't just pick it up after one line.  I have to hear it enough that my tongue can wrap around it.

Yes, but Kaysea doesn't sound like an Aussie. She sounds more like a Brit.
Aussie, Brit, its still English when you boil it down.
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Post by: Vix on March 17, 2007, 01:52:26 PM
Quote from: "Patrick"
Quote from: "vix"
Quote from: "Patrick"
Quote from: "Kaysea"Just a hint though, the majority of us speak more like Paul Hogan - Crocodile Dundee;  than Steve Erwin - Crocodile Hunter.   ;)

Now see if you wanted me to do a creditable accent, I'd have to spend time with an ACTUAL Aussie for a few days.  I can't just pick it up after one line.  I have to hear it enough that my tongue can wrap around it.

Yes, but Kaysea doesn't sound like an Aussie. She sounds more like a Brit.
Aussie, Brit, its still English when you boil it down.

Aussie English, British English, US English. . . the same yet different, if you mean the language.
As far as accents, as different as north from south in the US.
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Post by: Patrick on March 17, 2007, 01:57:00 PM
Quote from: "vix"
Quote from: "Patrick"
Quote from: "vix"
Quote from: "Patrick"
Quote from: "Kaysea"Just a hint though, the majority of us speak more like Paul Hogan - Crocodile Dundee;  than Steve Erwin - Crocodile Hunter.   ;)

Now see if you wanted me to do a creditable accent, I'd have to spend time with an ACTUAL Aussie for a few days.  I can't just pick it up after one line.  I have to hear it enough that my tongue can wrap around it.

Yes, but Kaysea doesn't sound like an Aussie. She sounds more like a Brit.
Aussie, Brit, its still English when you boil it down.

Aussie English, British English, US English. . . the same yet different, if you mean the language.
As far as accents, as different as north from south in the US.

Yeah they are, but they ARE still English on the inside.
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Post by: Eimi on March 17, 2007, 03:43:08 PM
QuoteAussie English, British English, US English. . . the same yet different, if you mean the language.

lol  They can be very different.  My first year in this town we had 4 Americans, a Brit, a Scot, a South African and 5 Aussies.  We were forever having to translate the English language for each other!
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Post by: Kaysea on March 17, 2007, 06:37:32 PM
Quote from: "Patrick"Yeah they are, but they ARE still English on the inside.

LOL I am, yes.  But don't say that to a lot of Aussies, or Brits, both sides would take umbrage.  Especially the ones who are trying to turn Australia into a republic.

There is a very fine line between love and hate where the poms and the aussies are concerned.
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Post by: Patrick on March 18, 2007, 04:28:49 PM
Quote from: "Kaysea"
Quote from: "Patrick"Yeah they are, but they ARE still English on the inside.

LOL I am, yes.  But don't say that to a lot of Aussies, or Brits, both sides would take umbrage.  Especially the ones who are trying to turn Australia into a republic.

There is a very fine line between love and hate where the poms and the aussies are concerned.

I wouldn't unless it came up in conversation.  But Australia a Republic?  What is it now?
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Post by: Mikel on March 18, 2007, 04:36:52 PM
Quote from: "vix"Aussie English, British English, US English. . . the same yet different, if you mean the language.
As far as accents, as different as north from south in the US.

Emma and I chat frequently during the day, and often we get to the point were I have to say to her "we are separated by a common language."
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Post by: Kaysea on March 18, 2007, 05:32:14 PM
Quote from: "Patrick"
Quote from: "Kaysea"
Quote from: "Patrick"Yeah they are, but they ARE still English on the inside.

LOL I am, yes.  But don't say that to a lot of Aussies, or Brits, both sides would take umbrage.  Especially the ones who are trying to turn Australia into a republic.

There is a very fine line between love and hate where the poms and the aussies are concerned.

I wouldn't unless it came up in conversation.  But Australia a Republic?  What is it now?

Australia is part of the commonwealth.  We are still are still ruled, in name only, by the Monarchy.

And a hint, I am a Monachist - well a Traditionalist at heart, and as such don't agree with the element that want to turn this beaut country into a Republic.
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Post by: emma on March 19, 2007, 12:52:49 AM
Quote from: "Kaysea"
Quote from: "Patrick"
Quote from: "Kaysea"
Quote from: "Patrick"Yeah they are, but they ARE still English on the inside.

LOL I am, yes.  But don't say that to a lot of Aussies, or Brits, both sides would take umbrage.  Especially the ones who are trying to turn Australia into a republic.

There is a very fine line between love and hate where the poms and the aussies are concerned.

I wouldn't unless it came up in conversation.  But Australia a Republic?  What is it now?

Australia is part of the commonwealth.  We are still are still ruled, in name only, by the Monarchy.

And a hint, I am a Monachist - well a Traditionalist at heart, and as such don't agree with the element that want to turn this beaut country into a Republic.

God save the Queen of England, Australia, New Zealand & Canada!
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Post by: Eimi on March 19, 2007, 03:09:01 AM
QuoteGod save the Queen of England, Australia, New Zealand & Canada!

Aren't there more countries in the commonwealth than that?
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Post by: Patrick on March 19, 2007, 03:36:43 AM
Quote from: "Eimi"
QuoteGod save the Queen of England, Australia, New Zealand & Canada!

Aren't there more countries in the commonwealth than that?

Thats what I thought.  Like some tiny island nations in the Pacific and something else.
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Post by: Vix on March 19, 2007, 03:45:07 AM
Quote from: "Patrick"
Quote from: "Eimi"
QuoteGod save the Queen of England, Australia, New Zealand & Canada!

Aren't there more countries in the commonwealth than that?

Thats what I thought.  Like some tiny island nations in the Pacific and something else.

http://www.hayes.de/common.htm (http://www.hayes.de/common.htm)
If this is accurate, quite a few more.
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Post by: Patrick on March 19, 2007, 03:50:16 AM
Quote from: "vix"
Quote from: "Patrick"
Quote from: "Eimi"
QuoteGod save the Queen of England, Australia, New Zealand & Canada!

Aren't there more countries in the commonwealth than that?

Thats what I thought.  Like some tiny island nations in the Pacific and something else.

http://www.hayes.de/common.htm (http://www.hayes.de/common.htm)
If this is accurate, quite a few more.
Wow  :sad5:
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Post by: Kaysea on March 19, 2007, 03:51:41 AM
Quote from: "Eimi"
QuoteGod save the Queen of England, Australia, New Zealand & Canada!

Aren't there more countries in the commonwealth than that?

Err, yeah, there are - don't say you didn't ask for this..LOL

Anguilla
Antigua & Barbuda
Australia
Bahamas
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belize
Bermuda
Botswana
British Virgin Islands
Brunei
Cameroon
Canada
Cayman Islands
Cook Islands
Cyprus
Dominica
England
Falkland Islands
Fiji
The Gambia
Ghana
Gibraltar
Grenada
Guernsey
Guyana
India
Isle of Man
Jamaica
Jersey
Kenya
Kiribati
Lesotho
Malawi
Malaysia
Maldives
Malta
Mauritius
Montserrat
Mozambique
Namibia
Nauru
New Zealand
Nigeria
Niue
Norfolk Island
Northern Ireland
Pakistan
Papua New Guinea
Samoa
Scotland
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Solomon Islands
Republic of South Africa
Sri Lanka
St Helena
St Kitts & Nevis
St Lucia
St Vincent & The Grenadines
Swaziland
United Republic of Tanzania
Tonga
Trinidad & Tobago
Turks & Caicos Islands
Tuvalu
Uganda
Vanuatu
Wales
Zambia
*Zimbabwe (former member)

You asked for it. this is it..

~Kaysea
Who is recovering froma harrowing episode of Desperate Housewives...
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Post by: Paula on March 19, 2007, 06:29:44 AM
Speaking of accents, you really don't want to HEAR me pronounce english. I can't .period.

But I do love scottish accent. I don't know why, but I just love listening it even if I don't understand it. Same with the irish.

When I was in England, I did talk with few my sister-in-laws friends. The pakistanians weren't problem, neither the Londoner but the Liverpool! Can someone translate it to english please!
 :cheers:  And I really got confused when the bus driver greeted: Cheers mate!
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Post by: Kaysea on March 19, 2007, 06:33:38 AM
Quote from: "Paula"Speaking of accents, you really don't want to HEAR me pronounce english. I can't .period.

But I do love scottish accent. I don't know why, but I just love listening it even if I don't understand it. Same with the irish.

When I was in England, I did talk with few my sister-in-laws friends. The pakistanians weren't problem, neither the Londoner but the Liverpool! Can someone translate it to english please!
 :cheers:  And I really got confused when the bus driver greeted: Cheers mate!

*chuckles*

I'm from Liverpool, Paula...
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Post by: Jane on March 19, 2007, 10:30:13 AM
Quote from: "Kaysea"Err, yeah, there are - don't say you didn't ask for this..LOL

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Fiji
...

You asked for it. this is it..

~Kaysea

Just to prove I did read the entire list: I think Fiji is suspended right now.
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Post by: emma on March 19, 2007, 11:33:56 AM
Quote from: "Jane"
Quote from: "Kaysea"Err, yeah, there are - don't say you didn't ask for this..LOL

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Fiji
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You asked for it. this is it..

~Kaysea

Just to prove I did read the entire list: I think Fiji is suspended right now.

The Queen is head of the Commonwealth, but not Queen of them all.

And as for accents - well I'm not as strongly northern as I once was.  My grandfather was a Scouser born and bred, so I've ties to Liverpool, and as for Bristolian Bus Drivers - the usual is 'Where's it to, me luver?'

My response the first time I heard that - was 'I'm not your lover, I just want to go to the University!'
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Post by: Jane on March 19, 2007, 11:51:11 AM
Quote from: "emma"... and as for Bristolian Bus Drivers - the usual is 'Where's it to, me luver?'

My response the first time I heard that - was 'I'm not your lover, I just want to go to the University!'

I worked with a guy who took exception to 'mate'.  He would look quite horrified and tell people that: "Mates have sex, and we aren't 'mates'!"
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Post by: PastMember on March 19, 2007, 12:02:47 PM
Not entirely on topic, but my mom always loved to tell a funny story about a roommate she had once who was English (don't know what area of England though). She and my mom were riding in a car with two of their guy friends and the English girl told one of them to come and knock up her and my mom in the morning.

The guy driving nearly wrecked the car apparently and my mom was like 'You can get knocked up in the morning if you want to, leave me out of it.' and the English girl didn't get it till my mom and the guys explained to her that, in the US, getting 'knocked up' didn't mean what she thought it did.
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Post by: emma on March 19, 2007, 01:33:09 PM
Quote from: "Amanda"Not entirely on topic, but my mom always loved to tell a funny story about a roommate she had once who was English (don't know what area of England though). She and my mom were riding in a car with two of their guy friends and the English girl told one of them to come and knock up her and my mom in the morning.

The guy driving nearly wrecked the car apparently and my mom was like 'You can get knocked up in the morning if you want to, leave me out of it.' and the English girl didn't get it till my mom and the guys explained to her that, in the US, getting 'knocked up' didn't mean what she thought it did.

ROFLMAO!!!!
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Post by: Avery on March 19, 2007, 02:48:21 PM
Quote from: "Amanda"Not entirely on topic, but my mom always loved to tell a funny story about a roommate she had once who was English (don't know what area of England though). She and my mom were riding in a car with two of their guy friends and the English girl told one of them to come and knock up her and my mom in the morning.

The guy driving nearly wrecked the car apparently and my mom was like 'You can get knocked up in the morning if you want to, leave me out of it.' and the English girl didn't get it till my mom and the guys explained to her that, in the US, getting 'knocked up' didn't mean what she thought it did.

Absolutely hilarious, and a good example of why Englishes are very, VERY different between countries.
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Post by: Bree on March 19, 2007, 05:26:49 PM
Within countries, too! When my best friend gave me directions to her new house the first time, she told me to drive down a certain street and then turn right at the package store.

I drove up and down the street looking for a UPS store or a post office for a good 25 minutes before I called her and found out that a package store is a liquor store. ;)

Sometimes I just get so confused by this wacky talk!
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Post by: Kaysea on March 19, 2007, 05:34:34 PM
Quote from: "Amanda"Not entirely on topic, but my mom always loved to tell a funny story about a roommate she had once who was English (don't know what area of England though). She and my mom were riding in a car with two of their guy friends and the English girl told one of them to come and knock up her and my mom in the morning.

The guy driving nearly wrecked the car apparently and my mom was like 'You can get knocked up in the morning if you want to, leave me out of it.' and the English girl didn't get it till my mom and the guys explained to her that, in the US, getting 'knocked up' didn't mean what she thought it did.

:lol:

These days I would say that being 'knocked up' transcends international boundaries.
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Post by: Rochelle on March 19, 2007, 09:00:45 PM
Quote from: "Bree"Within countries, too! When my best friend gave me directions to her new house the first time, she told me to drive down a certain street and then turn right at the package store.

I drove up and down the street looking for a UPS store or a post office for a good 25 minutes before I called her and found out that a package store is a liquor store. ;)

Sometimes I just get so confused by this wacky talk!

I feel for you Bree! I move every two to three years (sometimes less), and I have to adjust to a new slang every time!

One or the more memorable examples was in my freshman year. Some new friends of mine asked what I wanted to do, and I shrugged and said "I'm easy."

They were horrified! I didn't watch a lot of television, so they had to explain to me that the term -which in my previous state of residence had been short for "easygoing" or "I have no opinion"- had an entirely different meaning there! Needless to say, I stopped using that one quickly!
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Post by: Eimi on March 19, 2007, 10:13:43 PM
We use "I'm easy" for both meanings up in Washington.

The one that got me was when my parents lived in Connecticut for two years and people kept talking about a "tag sale" down the street.  We called them "yard sales" when they're in front of a person's house or a "garage sale" if they're in the garage.  But "tag sale" threw me off.

As far as directions, my South African friend gave directions to a guy and got him totally lost.  She said, "go down that street and turn left at the robot, and then a right at the second robot and you're there."  The poor guy was driving all over town trying to find something like looked like a robot.  He even asked someone "Do you know where the robot is?"  Finally he called her and she explained that traffic lights are called "robots" in SA.
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Post by: PastMember on March 20, 2007, 08:10:32 AM
Quote from: "Kaysea"
Quote from: "Amanda"Not entirely on topic, but my mom always loved to tell a funny story about a roommate she had once who was English (don't know what area of England though). She and my mom were riding in a car with two of their guy friends and the English girl told one of them to come and knock up her and my mom in the morning.

The guy driving nearly wrecked the car apparently and my mom was like 'You can get knocked up in the morning if you want to, leave me out of it.' and the English girl didn't get it till my mom and the guys explained to her that, in the US, getting 'knocked up' didn't mean what she thought it did.

:lol:

These days I would say that being 'knocked up' transcends international boundaries.

Yeah, this story took place back in the late 60's/early 70's sometime. I forget the exact date, but it was before my mom met my dad so that would have been the general area of time.
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Post by: Patrick on March 20, 2007, 02:59:01 PM
Quote from: "Rochelle"
Quote from: "Bree"Within countries, too! When my best friend gave me directions to her new house the first time, she told me to drive down a certain street and then turn right at the package store.

I drove up and down the street looking for a UPS store or a post office for a good 25 minutes before I called her and found out that a package store is a liquor store. ;)

Sometimes I just get so confused by this wacky talk!

I feel for you Bree! I move every two to three years (sometimes less), and I have to adjust to a new slang every time!

One or the more memorable examples was in my freshman year. Some new friends of mine asked what I wanted to do, and I shrugged and said "I'm easy."

They were horrified! I didn't watch a lot of television, so they had to explain to me that the term -which in my previous state of residence had been short for "easygoing" or "I have no opinion"- had an entirely different meaning there! Needless to say, I stopped using that one quickly!

HA!  My friend Ohm (He's an Exchange student from Thailand) used that or something similar, thinking he was all cool and up to date with current US slang, and me and my other friends laughed for at least ten minutes because he couldn't get what was so funny and none of us where coherent enough to explain it to him.
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Post by: Eimi on March 20, 2007, 04:37:28 PM
Quotethinking he was all cool and up to date with current US slang

When I first came to Japan for this job we had an orientation in a posh Tokyo hotel.   A couple of my friends came to meet me one of the nights and take me to a reunion with some of the students I worked with.  Yuki's English was always really good, so I was really shocked when she turned to the guy who came with her and in a rather loud voice asked, "Settchan, are you hung?"  My jaw dropped and a couple heads turned her way.  I asked "Yuki, what did you just say?" and she repeated it quite proudly.  I asked her "Do you know what that means?"  And she shrugged and said, "Yeah, its slang!  It's short for hungry."  I explained to her the true meaning of it, and I swear both of their faces turned red as a tomato.
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Post by: Kaysea on March 20, 2007, 04:43:19 PM
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Quotethinking he was all cool and up to date with current US slang

When I first came to Japan for this job we had an orientation in a posh Tokyo hotel.   A couple of my friends came to meet me one of the nights and take me to a reunion with some of the students I worked with.  Yuki's English was always really good, so I was really shocked when she turned to the guy who came with her and in a rather loud voice asked, "Settchan, are you hung?"  My jaw dropped and a couple heads turned her way.  I asked "Yuki, what did you just say?" and she repeated it quite proudly.  I asked her "Do you know what that means?"  And she shrugged and said, "Yeah, its slang!  It's short for hungry."  I explained to her the true meaning of it, and I swear both of their faces turned red as a tomato.

*falls off chair laughing*

(May be in Japan it is short for hungry, but everywhere else it sure isn't....:lol:)